Training: Negative Only Shoulder Press and Pulldown
2009 June 12
Just a couple more videos showing the Eccentric Edge piece for vertical press/pull work.
The last video is a bit dark throughout but still gives you an idea after having seen the other videos…you do miss my power clean to get the lever up high enough, though.
Skyler,
How often are you guys training with negatives like this?
David
David,
Depends on how we’re cycling training demands. I’m currently not using any negatives, but in the next 4 to 6 months I’ll be bringing them back into my routines.
Mark (blonde beast) does them weekly in addition to his westside-inspired powerlifting routine. Boss Mark does them with beast Mark because beast Mark is controlling the routines…make sense?
At the risk of being a pain, couldn’t you accomplish the same thing as the pulldown doing weighted pullups (with a dip belt) and stepping up on a box for the concentric part of the rep? I.e. only doing the eccentric with a dip-belt and pullup bar?
I really like the idea behind the Eccentric Edge stuff, and can see it as a really useful tool. Is there an advantage to the pulldown machine I’m missing?
Chris,
You can accomplish the same thing. The problem comes when you get really, really strong and are clipping 100+lbs to your waist. It’s not impossible, and it’s how I did it for years, but if you have training partners it makes life a little easier.
Skyler,
I stumbled across this and thought you might enjoy it since you’re working on your vertical jump. These are the results from this year’s NBA combine, they use no-step vertical and a max vertical. The NBA’s definition of a no-step vertical is just down and up, they don’t allow a rock step or anything:
http://www.nbadraft.net/node/6301
Player measurements here: http://www.nbadraft.net/node/6151
David