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	<title>Comments on: Training: Negative Only Shoulder Press and Pulldown</title>
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		<title>By: David Sears</title>
		<link>http://skylertanner.com/2009/06/12/training-negative-only-shoulder-press-and-pulldown/#comment-272</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Sears]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Skyler,

I stumbled across this and thought you might enjoy it since you&#039;re working on your vertical jump.  These are the results from this year&#039;s NBA combine, they use no-step vertical and a max vertical.  The NBA&#039;s definition of a no-step vertical is just down and up, they don&#039;t allow a rock step or anything:

http://www.nbadraft.net/node/6301

Player measurements here:  http://www.nbadraft.net/node/6151

David]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skyler,</p>
<p>I stumbled across this and thought you might enjoy it since you&#8217;re working on your vertical jump.  These are the results from this year&#8217;s NBA combine, they use no-step vertical and a max vertical.  The NBA&#8217;s definition of a no-step vertical is just down and up, they don&#8217;t allow a rock step or anything:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nbadraft.net/node/6301" rel="nofollow">http://www.nbadraft.net/node/6301</a></p>
<p>Player measurements here:  <a href="http://www.nbadraft.net/node/6151" rel="nofollow">http://www.nbadraft.net/node/6151</a></p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Skyler Tanner</title>
		<link>http://skylertanner.com/2009/06/12/training-negative-only-shoulder-press-and-pulldown/#comment-255</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skyler Tanner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris,

You can accomplish the same thing. The problem comes when you get really, really strong and are clipping 100+lbs to your waist. It&#039;s not impossible, and it&#039;s how I did it for years, but if you have training partners it makes life a little easier.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>You can accomplish the same thing. The problem comes when you get really, really strong and are clipping 100+lbs to your waist. It&#8217;s not impossible, and it&#8217;s how I did it for years, but if you have training partners it makes life a little easier.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris - www.fitnessfail.com</title>
		<link>http://skylertanner.com/2009/06/12/training-negative-only-shoulder-press-and-pulldown/#comment-254</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris - www.fitnessfail.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At the risk of being a pain, couldn&#039;t you accomplish the same thing as the pulldown doing weighted pullups (with a dip belt) and stepping up on a box for the concentric part of the rep?  I.e. only doing the eccentric with a dip-belt and pullup bar?

I really like the idea behind the Eccentric Edge stuff, and can see it as a really useful tool.  Is there an advantage to the pulldown machine I&#039;m missing?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of being a pain, couldn&#8217;t you accomplish the same thing as the pulldown doing weighted pullups (with a dip belt) and stepping up on a box for the concentric part of the rep?  I.e. only doing the eccentric with a dip-belt and pullup bar?</p>
<p>I really like the idea behind the Eccentric Edge stuff, and can see it as a really useful tool.  Is there an advantage to the pulldown machine I&#8217;m missing?</p>
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		<title>By: Skyler Tanner</title>
		<link>http://skylertanner.com/2009/06/12/training-negative-only-shoulder-press-and-pulldown/#comment-253</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skyler Tanner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 12:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David,

Depends on how we&#039;re cycling training demands. I&#039;m currently not using any negatives, but in the next 4 to 6 months I&#039;ll be bringing them back into my routines.

Mark (blonde beast) does them weekly in addition to his westside-inspired powerlifting routine. Boss Mark does them with beast Mark because beast Mark is controlling the routines...make sense?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Depends on how we&#8217;re cycling training demands. I&#8217;m currently not using any negatives, but in the next 4 to 6 months I&#8217;ll be bringing them back into my routines.</p>
<p>Mark (blonde beast) does them weekly in addition to his westside-inspired powerlifting routine. Boss Mark does them with beast Mark because beast Mark is controlling the routines&#8230;make sense?</p>
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		<title>By: David Sears</title>
		<link>http://skylertanner.com/2009/06/12/training-negative-only-shoulder-press-and-pulldown/#comment-252</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Sears]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 03:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Skyler,

How often are you guys training with negatives like this?  

David]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skyler,</p>
<p>How often are you guys training with negatives like this?  </p>
<p>David</p>
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